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PostSubject: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 1:58 pm

I need some opinions. I'm trying to help someone I like on DeviantArt. He's been targeted by a popular artist and has been labeled a pedophile by her. She's also got her audience mostly on her side.
Now in today's world, people find pedophilia 80x worse than genocide and nuclear holocausts so labeling someone as such wrongfully is extremely dangerous. Judgments have also become rather clouded on what breaches these boundaries in few cases. I think this is one of those cases.

My question to you all is this:

Is this character pedophilia? NOT safe for work
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/123/0/1/chess___pawn_sitting_by_rivaliant-d63yy81.png
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/095/4/2/whitedeath_oil_d_by_rivaliant-d60hzcj.jpg
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/104/f/a/badgirl_pin_up___silk_by_rivaliant-d61q4ha.png

Now the funny thing is, the artist labeling him didn't even confront him first. She just abused her popularity and got everyone to agree with her simply because she's a good artist and they'll instantly side with her.

The image she found particularly "disturbing" and "twisted" that triggered her spontaneous crusade was this.
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/119/e/8/checkmate_by_rivaliant-d63i1u7.png

It was reported and the request to have it removed was denied because she needed proof this was a child to which she said DA has their head in their ass for not agreeing with her radical accusation.

The journal.
http://stacyraven.deviantart.com/journal/Pedo-Image-Alert-Need-Your-Help-369503565

Maybe I'm wrong and am supporting a pedophile. But I highly doubt it...
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 2:10 pm

This is a compilation of all the things I hate about people in these subcultures.

No, it is not paedophilia. That is stupid. What is even worse is that people care this much. IT IS A FUCKING PICTURE -- A FICTIONAL PIECE OF ART and people need to get over their air of moral superiority they use to try and rationalize their own sick proclivities. (yes, I'm sorry but that is EXACTLY why people jump on this shit.

Just say it's midget porn or something. It doesn't even look like a midget as much as a somewhat flat-chested short chick. The reason they didn't take it down isn't because they are lazy and have their head up their ass. It is because the ARTIST IS A FUCKING MORON for reporting it in the first place.

Holy fucking shit, what is wrong with people.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 2:12 pm

i left her a rude comment. looks like i wont be getting any respect, but frankly, from a woman with her intellect, its not something i desire.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 2:14 pm

I would, but this isn't a good enough reason to register to yet-another-art-site.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 2:14 pm

The facial structure makes the subject look quite young; I'm not going to side with anyone yet until the artist in question provides her actual age... if it is a photograph. It looks more or less like seductive modeling than porn.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 2:20 pm

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The facial structure makes the subject look quite young; I'm not going to side with anyone yet until the artist in question provides her actual age... if it is a photograph. It looks more or less like seductive modeling than porn.

I'm not going to side with anyone based on the picture, because really -- who cares. I tend to gravitate away from psychotic and militant irrational behavior and toward the one who obviously isn't instigating any drama.

All I can read from that is "OH MY GOD THIS PICTURE LOOKS A BIT TOO MUCH LIKE A CHILD AND WE MUST ALL GET TOGETHER AND STOP THIS PERSON FROM CREATING FICTIONAL WORKS OF ART!!!"

It is self-righteous, it is FUCKING PATHETIC and the person in question is obviously trying to hide from something they don't like about themselves by singling out and picking on others. I call that the "Jerry Springer" effect ;3
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 2:23 pm

I personally am very against pedophilia. But even if this was an actual model, I don't think she's underage. Her body is too developed to be that of a prepubescent child. Then again, I've been wrong before, so I'll wait and see what happens.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 2:28 pm

Regardless of how I worded it, I'm not here to argue or sway judgement. I just want opinions from a more unbiased source. You have all seen or heard of neither until now. Fans of Rival will side with him and fans of Stacey will side with her. I

Azure wrote:
i left her a rude comment. looks like i wont be getting any respect, but frankly, from a woman with her intellect, its not something i desire.

lol You are a clown.

EDIT: LOL!!!
I just checked the post.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 2:34 pm

Lunar wrote:
I personally am very against pedophilia.

Look, you can't really be "against pedophilia" because THE WORD pedophilia has to do with what people are thinking. Who cares what people are thinking? People think all kinds of sick and vile shit all the time. The important thing to consider is ACTIONS.

In this case, it's a goddamned fictional work of art. Who cares?

If it was ACTUAL kiddy porn, or a child being molested I obviously wouldn't be saying the same thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 2:48 pm

That's what I meant. The actions. Thoughts are thoughts, I have some thoughts of my own about reaching across the counter and bitch slapping a customer with a block of cheese. Doesn't make it okay to actually do it. The bottom line is, this doesn't look like kiddy porn to me, therefore I don't care.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 2:52 pm

I'm not sure if the message here is that I shouldn't care because I do. I mean...I talk to the guy a lot and he's a cool person. That's why I'm bringing it up.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 3:13 pm

Lol
Azure, how'd I know she'd flag you?
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 3:35 pm

It's really disturbing that it's come to this. People want to control what others think, feel, and the most harmless expressions of that. You know damn well that none of these moral crusaders, in their own lives, really lift a finger to stop victimhood of actual children. Watching To Catch A Predator or Nancy Grace and getting your lil' Two Minutes Hate rocks off doesn't count. It's pretty obvious this isn't about protecting children and stopping child porn as much as someone who, in the real world is probably a parasitic waste of skin, telling anyone who will listen that the existence of a few sick people somehow justifies theirs.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 3:44 pm

I can agree with that sentiment. I can bet she'll forget all about this later on too.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 3:52 pm

After looking at the images in question, and seeing that sanctimoniously saccharine plea for attention - the one adorned with leaves and a plaque bearing some bullshit about "virtue and art", I just had to respond somehow. Her own comments were enough to work with.

"The fact that you see 'fantasy races' depicted in all sort of ways" doesn't mean it's right."

So are you saying after you move on from/utterly fail in your cause to stop the molestation and exploitation of purely fictional "children", you're going to go after furries next? Because you strike me as someone who hasn't seen shit yet. You need to check out Inkbunny if you wanna see fantasy races and underage characters in the same package. That'll give you something to cry about.

"I am entitled to my opinion"

Entitled to your own opinion, yes. Entitled to your own reality, most certainly not. Entitled to harass and slander people for what's essentially, to you, a form of Thought Crime? Last I checked, DA is the corporation here, not you.

Look, calling this person a pedophile for drawing something only vaguely child-like in a sexual manner would be like me assuming you're a dyke because you draw female super heroes. But that's none of my business. Just like their sexuality is none of yours.

What is so hard about that to grasp?
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 3:59 pm

Did you mean you posted a comment on her journal? I don't see it if you did.

Wolf-Bone wrote:
What is so hard about that to grasp?

Refer to your previous comment. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 4:04 pm

XoPachi wrote:
Did you mean you posted a comment on her journal? I don't see it if you did.

Wolf-Bone wrote:
What is so hard about that to grasp?

Refer to your previous comment. lol

Well it's showing up for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 4:08 pm

Spoke too soon. I'm "Deviously Denied". I guess insinuating someone might be a lesbian is worse than outright labeling someone a pedo.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 4:12 pm

Blawked.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 4:32 pm

She really can't stand opposing opinions...
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 4:53 pm

"You're a fucking moron. Do you see any labels saying it's underage? No, so go fuck yourself, you stupid cunt. People like you are why DeviantArt is such a shitty fucking website."

I gave my two cents. |3

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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 5:03 pm

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She really can't stand opposing opinions...

I've noticed a lot of people who talk about their right to an opinion don't believe others have the same right. Also I wonder if there's a term for the same mentality as a hugbox, except it's more like "lets all unite in our anger and hate towards someone or something and shun anyone who disagrees". Maybe hatebox.
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 5:08 pm

Flaming is the only thing dA is any good for.

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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 5:15 pm

Posted my two cents as well. And DAMN she's fast. Lucy, you already got blocked. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Urgent Issue   Sun May 05, 2013 5:16 pm

Awesome.

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